This article talks about the President-elect's plan to end the weirdo Clintonian policy that was enacted shortly after I joined the military. I remember a couple of gay guys kind of "outing" themselves immediately on my ship and how no one was really comfortable around them after that, especially in the showers. The only question I ever had was when can I start showering with the women if this is how it will be? I mean if gays are allowed to shower with the gender they are attracted to, why can't everyone?
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Yeah man I agree , I need to take a shower with my girl friend..
"IF THIS IS HOW IT WILL BE"? Do you think forcing gays to be closeted would keep them from being attracted to you in and out of the shower? Do you think it is fair for them to have to hide who they are? What happens when you segregate a large population of men from the rest of society for months at a time? Gays in the military!!??! And the sea with salt! You should instead be questioning why "no one was really comfortable around them after that, especially in the showers". What exactly is so uncomfortable about being around gay men? Can we please use some logic? Scared you're gonna catch it?
Grow up. Not only "Gay" men are attracted to other men. Or did you think that you were the only assumed straight man with homosexual urges? There are plenty of bisexual and "straight" men, even amongst those who have wives at home who would get easily aroused if they were to see a bunch of muscular men in the nude, so where do you draw the line? If this is such a big problem, don't force people to hide who they are: stop group showers, stop group bunking, or don't join the military. Alternately, how about some OBVIOUS ground rules/ service person honor policy/code of conduct what have you that would protect everyone (gay, straight, bisexual, transgendered, in the shower, on the ground), like if someone harasses you, report them. If someone looks at you sexually continuously or in the shower/while exposed, report them. If someone touches you inappropriately, report them. Have a national number that any service person can call if they feel harassed and abused in the workplace( like there would be at any workplace). TREAT the armed forces like any other workplace. Couples (gay and straight) cannot bunk together and may only meet in a casual or sexual setting when not on duty(port, what have you).
That wouldn't change the western stigma with sex and sexuality, afraid of its own tail (which I think all the issues really lie in sexual repression, and oppression, not with homosexual people themselves). I can see why individuals who are for "don't ask, don't tell", don't want gays in the military: you can't stand the thought... you might like some man on man action eh? Something about homosexuality sure is a hang up for you blokes.
What a long irrelevant rant. I don't have a stigma, just the opinion I am entitled to.
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